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Yea there's no reason to pay to demolish it until they have to. And with Timberwolf, it's able to still be used. So even if it isn't hosting many things it is still able to and can be a small revenue source until it comes time for them to have to make a real decision on whether to keep it or not. I do feel the time for a decision on that general area is coming but its not imminent yet.

That is my assumption of that statement as well. I view it more as the checklist graphic they show of what is included in each tier or not (no blackout dates, Halloween Haunt, Winterfest, free parking, etc) are the benefits they mean carrying over to all parks. Not park specific special events.

Even though it's a decent drive I have debated getting Dollywood passes some year. We love Gatlinburg anyway so figure be fun weekend get-aways a few times through the year and try to go to their different festivals.

I enjoy it when I ride it and if it’s making money for them makes sense to keep, but hate its location. Being right in the middle of Action Zone limits additions/expansions/redos of the area. I don’t see them spending money to move it but would like to see it moved to the field next to Flight of Fear in Area 72 and themed to a training thing. This would open a huge area (especially if they replaced Congo Falls and Invertigo as well) for a redo of Action Zone.

I loved the Smurfs boat ride as a kid, but was even more excited for Phantom Theatre so didn’t miss it when it left.

I think it’s a good thing. Going to be popular when it returns as new thing and a return of a loved attraction. When we rode the original it was easily our longest wait even with FL+. Valravn was brand new and it took us about 15 minutes and Maverick was 10-15. But TTD took 30 or so because dispatches took so long.

Nah Racer will become Twix. “Are you Left Racer or Right Racer”

I think only special ones will. Loch Ness was a more historic coaster and might have stayed very popular too. I think the average Arrow will likely just get replaced. As mentioned I could see Magnum get similar when needed. And hope AE is saved when that time comes. I have hope for that given all the recent work they did for it.

I'd personally keep it Coney Mall, but would like to see stuff that kind of skirts the line of the theme for both. Like a big log flume (unlikely I know) would fit well into both Coney Mall and Rivertown. I also really like the idea of making a subsection land of Coney Mall in that area themed around 502/60s with SR&R, Jukebox Diner, and Antique Autos there already. Can retheme BLSC, add in a Musik Express flat, and do a 50's themed coaster. Though trying to think of a non car theme since we already have the antique autos and BLSC in that area already. That or remove BLSC to make room for more new rides for either Coney or Rivertown and then do a hotrod themed coaster.

I guess depends on how much. I did word it as less profit, and yes if it is making profit that would be beneficial even if it is small. But if the maintenance and operating costs (including paying staff to work it even if no one rides) outweighs the income, then it would be operating at a loss. So yes any profit coming in is better than none, but money coming in doesn’t necessarily mean profit either.

Actually based on this it seems that the system isn't random. People that are visiting a lot aren't getting perks as they don't seem to need an incentive to come visit the park. Those coming only once or twice, the park is trying to get to come more frequently so that they will spend money on food, drinks, games, etc. while in the park. And in the case of the perk Stoan showed above, they are doing it by offering a fantastic perk to bring 4 additional people with you so they can collect as much money in that one extra visit they are getting out of you with the perk. As Tr0y said, it would be nice if rewards were based on in park spending so they more you go/spend the more you get, but it seems likely it is the reverse and it is just being used to entice people back that aren't coming as frequently.

I would overall say 10 people riding it for $5-$10 is worse than 4 at $20 each. To start if those 10 were all at $50 it is nearly half the income of the 4 at $20, but saying they are equal or even $100 vs $80, there is more wear on the systems running it 5 times for those 10 versus 2 times for the 4. The springs and bands get put through a lot of stress on each run and from stuff I have read on these, need to be replaced frequently so operating it 2.5x as often for the same income is going to lower your profit when compared with the increased maintenance costs.

I’m not a fan of these type of upcharge attractions in general and would rather have a regular flat ride that is free. Also, rode this once and it wasn’t even that great.

I think a log flume thematically fits in with Coney Mall as well. So could make it a Coney addition with theming along the edge of Rivertown to tie it into there too. Seems like log flumes are dying off so don't' see one getting added but always thought it would make a great addition there as something that fits well in both areas thematically to be on the border.

I agree. DC wouldn't be my first choice but AZ as is can't really get much worse. It's already a concrete pad with rides plopped around. Any themes with add some cohesion. Another addition I wouldn't mind seeing in a DC retheme would be the Battle for Metropolis dark ride. And examples you gave are some of the hope I do have for the merger. Six Flags is kind of known for cheapness but they do have some good theming in areas too, and especially with some newer stuff like Dr. Diabolical's.

Would Herschend want to buy Kings Island with having acquired Kentucky Kingdom though? Or do you think they would acquire KI and run both or potentially try to sell off KK soon after? Of the Cedar Fair chains I'd most want to see them take would be Knott's. If the new company doesn't want both Knott's and Magic Mountain with their proximity, I wouldn't mind seeing Herschend take Knott's as it would fit in well with their theming style. The only downside is they don't really do scary Halloween, so that would like result in the loss of Knott's Scary Farm which would be a shame since it was the original Halloween park event.

That's my guess to. That teaser image looks like a bird of prey and we know they are working on Falcon's Flight, so I'm guessing a train/lead car reveal at IAAPA. Hopefully they will also give more details, but imagine additional information or pov would come with a park announcement or individual full ride reveal elsewhere than an IAAPA booth.

I would completely retheme/redo BLSC. The ride itself is fun but the theming for it brings down the surrounding areas. I would rework the theming to make it fit in better with Rivertown, Coney Mall, and the Tower Gardens area. Essentially I'd remove the theming we currently have on it and just replace it with nice landscaping so you are speeding past trees, creeks, etc. and paint the track white. If possible I'd change the trains to horse themed motocoaster trains like on Pony Express at Knott's. The horses would fit in with both Rivertown as well as Coney Mall for a Steeplechase type theme, and the general landscaping would improve the look around the base of the Eiffel Tower as well. The motocoaster style trains would also give it a more unique feel too to make it stand out from the other coasters in the park and surrounding region. If the motocoaster cars aren't an option could keep the car look but maybe change to a more vintage style car and have it be more of a coaster version of Les Taxis. I'd also reroute the entrance to be off the path between Rivertown and the Eiffel Tower, as this would open up the current entry plaza for a new flat ride. Looking at Aerial views there is enough room in that space for a small flat to add to Coney. Maybe a Musik Express style ride (call if Sock Hop) to go along with the little 50's theme of the Jukebox Diner and SR&R.

I love the ride itself so would hate to see it go, but if they could replace it with either a more reliable version there or elsewhere in the park as just a new general Flat ride I’d be happy.

I like that idea as well. That would be my second best to an entire Camp Snoopy (I feel cohesion across the area would be great for theming and mean more trees hopefully) but do like the idea of the mini lands making up Planet Snoopy as a whole. Beach and space would make other great fun themes. IF they did this I hope they would incorporate they would incorporate Snoopy's Junction train ride to the camp. With all the trees it fits in better for that than beach. To make a new attraction too maybe replace it with something like Black Bear Trail from Dollywood.

It appears to just be the back of the land getting retheme/expansion. It looks like the Camp Snoopy sign will sit somewhere near Woodstock Gliders. I hope so too. RFYLCB fits right in with the camping theme already. Based on the photos it appears that Flying Ace might be getting repainted to fit in as well, so maybe it and RFYLCB will be pulled in to create a larger miniland within the area. I could see Linus launcher "rethemed" (staying as is but referred to something new to fit the area) to kites or hang gliders to fit in with the camp theme as well. This would make an even divider for everything in the photo below (give or take Woodstock Gliders) to be incorporated to Camp Snoopy easily. Overall I hope this is just a phase one retheme of the entire area to a camp theme but it looks like it should be a nice addition/upgrade to the area.

I think these short notice announcements are made to temper expectations as well. If they drum up lots of hype for an announcement that is a pretty miniscule addition (or for many anything other than a new roller coaster) it will be underwhelming. Where if they just make this announcement the day before, there isn't time for people to build up in their minds some amazing new ride about to be announced that isn't coming. Plus the lack of major hyping kinds of points to it being a minor addition.

That's disappointing that they don't do that anymore. I used to reride stuff all the time on slow days if noone was waiting, espcailly on those two and Adventure Express. Remember just riding WWC 4 times in a row to get our fill in so we didn't have to get wet again after drying off.

I do like the idea of an indoor family coaster, but I would hate to lose our only dark ride. It does need updated bad, but I'd still prefer a new Peanut's themed dark ride over a coaster. But a coaster would be better than Boo Blasters. Maybe could do a combo with a couple dark ride scenes at the start and end with a launched coaster section for the bulk. I'd theme it to Great Pumpkin. Trains and launched coaster section could be themed around the Red Baron flying sections.

I agree. I like the option of the tiers, but I think it's done more as a way to make the actual pass seem like a better deal. This is done a lot in marketing, especially food sales, where a tier is added slightly below the top just to make the top tier look more appealing. If you're already spending $60 dollars to skip the line a few times, what is another $10-20 for unlimited use. For many individual and couples it just makes sense to buy the top tier, I feel like families are the only area where it might make them second guess. If buying for 4-5 you are now saving $100 and still get to ride everything once. But if they made it twice the cost for the unlimited more would probably opt for the single use, but I don't think that's what the park is really after. They are just trying to entice more people to buy the higher option. They could even just make the single use the same price as normal and then make the unlimited double that and still make the same (or a little more), but it will then make the standard line more reasonable likely resulting in less appeal to buy the Fast Lane potentially hurting sales. either that or they just sell more single use fastlanes to make up for the lack of rerides in the FL line.